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Big Dan
Thursday, February 21st, 2008, 11:30 AM
http://www.bigdanee.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/1and1.jpg 1&1 is the worst online company I have ever had to deal with. The sad part of it is I already knew this and still signed up a for another hosting account with them. It all started with me wanting to conserve some resources on the VPS where I host my DJ Forum (http://www.ourdjtalk.com). Figuring I’d move my blog (bandwidth eater), parked domains, and a few other sites to an another host so I decided to start a new hosting account with DreamHost for this purpose. I’ve had history with DreamHost too but overall they’re a decent host and work with their customers.
Long story short I had issues with DreamHost it took them over a week to get my domain email working properly, I was getting frustrated so two days ago I opened a new hosting account with 1&1 at an introductory price. This hosting plan was supposed to be an upgrade to my current account where I have about 50 domains registered. Here’s where the first thing went wrong, they added a new contract to my account instead of upgrading my current contract. Okay no problem so I’ll just add the domains as additional hosted domains since they’re already registered at 1and1. The hosting plan came with 100 “add-on” domains, these are domains that are registered elsewhere but hosted at 1and1. I go to add the first domain registered at 1and1 that I want to host on another 1and1 contract under the same customer number (confused yet? Yeah that’s 1&1’s plan all along.) Their control panel won’t let me select host as additional domain it will only let me move it to the new hosting package. Okay that’s fine since I plan on keeping both contracts active. I select move it to this package, now I’m hit with a little check box that I have to check “I understand that my credit card will be charged for this item”. Huh? Wait..What? I already own the domain, why would you charge me to move it? No other registrar does that. Apparently 1&1 wants to charge me a full year’s registration fee to move the domain to another account I own and then not extend the domain’s expiration date by another year. What the ****? in plain English. So, I cancel that.
Two letters to their “support” department trying to get them to merge the two contracts goes on unanswered. A third letter demanding cancellation of the hosting package gets the standard canned response, directing me to go to cancel.1and1.com. I’ve been through this cancellation process before, it’s convoluted and deliberately confusing. Having been through this before it’s a breeze for the seasoned 1and1 run around professional. I select the hosting contract and hit cancel entire package. Please check your email for a confirmation link, okay I get the confirmation link click it. Easy enough right?
Nope I get your package will be canceled February 19, 2009. Huh? Now I realize to get the promotional price that I had to lock into a time commitment, 1 year. Not a problem but I’m well with their 90 day money back guarantee period it should of been deactivated and canceled on the spot. An email to support explaining the whole situation gets a canned response to contact the billing department. Which I just wrote, I’ll update when I get a response.
As I write this my bank account has been debited $6 on 4 separate occasions from 1&1. $6 dollars is their ghost charge, they charge it and then put the money back to confirm funds availability. Let’s not mention the fact that every other company on the planet only debits a few cents or at most $1 to confirm the card is chargeable. 1&1 has seen fit to confirm my card 4 times, thus tieing up $24 that I could be putting to good use else where like DreamHost.
If it weren’t for my VPS’s host name being tied into a domain registered with 1&1, I would take a hit and loose 50 domains and cancel my entire account with 1&1 they’re just plain bad business people.
*Coming soon: A tutorial on canceling 1&1 products.*


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Raven
Thursday, February 21st, 2008, 06:45 PM
I have a dreamhost account only because the give non profits free accounts. I still havent figured out the email accounts for outlook. I can get them coming in but they wont go out. Any ideas. If you say it could be my ISP, I am with comcast.

I’ve had history with DreamHost too but overall they’re a decent host and work with their customers.
Long story short I had issues with DreamHost it took them over a week to get my domain email working properly.

More... (http://www.bigdanee.com/on-the-internet/website-hosting/1and1-sucks.html)

Big Dan
Thursday, February 21st, 2008, 07:31 PM
I have a dreamhost account only because the give non profits free accounts. I still havent figured out the email accounts for outlook. I can get them coming in but they wont go out. Any ideas. If you say it could be my ISP, I am with comcast.

Dreamhost overall is pretty good their techs are a bunch of nice guys who try their best to deal with the overloaded servers they're left to manage due to massive overselling but that's another story for another time. :)

I don't know if Comcast blocks outgoing SMTP (outgoing mail server) connections to servers other than it's own or they might not allow mail sent through their SMTP servers that isn't a comcast address.

You have three options:


Try setting it up with Dreamhost's outgoing (SMTP) mail servers. (Follow this how to: http://wiki.dreamhost.com/KB_/_Email_/_POP3/IMAP/SMTP_Servers#What_is_the_name_of_my_outgoing_mail_ .28SMTP.29_server.3F
You can try using your comcast SMTP server with the DreamHost address.
Forward the address into Gmail and set it up as a sending address in Gmail. I have this setup for about 10 different email addresses with Gmail. If you decide to go the gmail route and need help let me know I'll walk you through it. :)

Raven
Thursday, February 21st, 2008, 08:48 PM
Lets do the gmail thing. Probably would be better. Talk me through it, make sure you talk to me like I am a little kid so I can understand what you are saying. lol

If you decide to go the gmail route and need help let me know I'll walk you through it. :)

Kaos
Friday, February 22nd, 2008, 01:11 AM
When I saw you starting a thread about 1and1 Dan I was like WTF? I thought we already covered in the past what a gm of a host they were. Sorry you're getting a bum deal again with them... but what have we learned? LOL

popowich
Friday, February 22nd, 2008, 10:05 AM
Dedicated hosting is the way to go!

you have to fix your own problems, but I'll take me over someone who could care less any day!

-Raymond

Big Dan
Friday, February 22nd, 2008, 10:13 AM
When I saw you starting a thread about 1and1 Dan I was like WTF? I thought we already covered in the past what a gm of a host they were. Sorry you're getting a bum deal again with them... but what have we learned? LOL

Tell about it, I'm a sucker for punishment. :fryingpan:

Lets do the gmail thing. Probably would be better. Talk me through it, make sure you talk to me like I am a little kid so I can understand what you are saying. lol

Okay :) First think you're going to do is open your mail program and delete the accounts you will be forwarding from Gmail. This way your mail program doesn't try got check them and give you errors.

Login to your DreamHost Panel > Go To the Manage email tab and delete the addresses you're going to be forwarding.

Next create the addresses again but instead of filling out the whole thing scroll down an bit and go to the "Forward Only Email" box.

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Fill out the email address in the list an email addresses box put your Gmail address in.

Hit Forward to these addresses!

Now wait about 10 minutes

Open Gmail > Click Settings in the the top right hand corner

On the settings page open the accounts tab

Under Send Mail As click add another email address

In the pop up box fill out your name and the email address from DreamHost > Click Next > Send Verifaction

Wait a minute or two check your Gmail inbox for the confirmation and click on the link.

Presto you're done, now when composing mail you can choose that address to be the sender. :)

Dedicated hosting is the way to go!

you have to fix your own problems, but I'll take me over someone who could care less any day!

-Raymond

Yeah, I got a VPS which is fully managed and they're great but I wanted a shared account to pile some sites on..DH is being decent so far. 1and1 Blows though. :censored1:

Raven
Friday, February 22nd, 2008, 10:27 AM
Is that a hint to me to find the answers out for myself. I'm trying. :(


Dedicated hosting is the way to go!

you have to fix your own problems, but I'll take me over someone who could care less any day!

-Raymond

popowich
Friday, February 22nd, 2008, 11:26 AM
The world is not out to get you.

My point was the best support tends to come form those who care.

Usually yourself, and your friends and/or business associates, not the lackeys at the other end of the phone.

-Raymond

Raven
Friday, February 22nd, 2008, 11:42 AM
Sorry I was kidding. :(

The world is not out to get you.

My point was the best support tends to come form those who care.

Usually yourself, and your friends and/or business associates, not the lackeys at the other end of the phone.

-Raymond