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popowich
Wednesday, May 28th, 2008, 01:05 PM
Have you ever heard the commercials on the radio about getting a house with a $199/month mortgage payment? I did a few minutes of googling on the risks and here is the best warning page about it that I could find. Unless you are a cross between a bounty hunter and Bob Villa it seems like a very bad idea to get involved in such things. That and you need the stones to be able to toss the people currently living there into the streets.

-Raymond


Price-conscious home buyers are lured by the low prices advertised for properties in foreclosure. (http://homebuying.about.com/od/4closureshortsales/qt/foreclosures.htm) They hope to show up at the auction and be the lowest bidder. However, many of these homes are not available for inspection prior to purchase. Is it smart to buy a home that you cannot inspect? Could be if the price was low enough to compensate you for the amount of work that might be required to bring the condition of the home to market standards.


Before you rush forward to buy a foreclosure, stop to think about some of the drawbacks and repercussions if you can't get in the house to inspect the interior.


Who Is Living at the Property?


If the property is occupied, the successful bidder is typically responsible for removing the occupants, who may not be the previous owners. They could be relatives or friends of the owners, renters or squatters. You might have to evict them.


If you are unfamiliar with eviction processes, you should hire a lawyer to handle it for you.
Be aware that tenants who are sued for eviction sometimes retaliate.
A better solution might be to pay or bribe the occupants to leave.

Non-Owner Occupied Homes


One such home in Yolo County, California, was rented to a dubious couple: a former convict recently released on parole and his partner with sketchy credit, who flinched at loud noises like a domestic abuse victim.


The seller, unaware that his deed of trust contained an "assignment of rents" -- meaning the lender had a right to collect the rent if the owner did not make his payments -- stopped paying on his piggyback loans (http://homebuying.about.com/od/glossaryp/g/PiggybackLoans.htm) and didn't much care who he rented to as long as they paid him. Fully intending to pocket the rents and forget about his mortgage loans, the seller listed the rental for sale. His agent made an initial attempt to gain access to the home. The ex-con, a neo-Nazi with a shaved head, massive tattoos and holding back a barking pit bull, peeked through the door and then slammed it in the agent's face.


Soon as the For Sale sign was planted in the lawn, the tenants stopped paying rent. Neither the lender nor the seller could collect any money from the tenants. The agent could not show the property. This was an ugly situation. The lender filed for foreclosure and vowed to file a deficiency judgment against the seller, which lenders can do in California if the loans were not purchase money.

Condition of Foreclosed Homes


Because these homes are purchased "as is" from the lender or HUD (http://www.hud.gov/), there is no guarantee of condition. Sometimes it is possible to inspect these homes prior to making an offer but sometimes, as in the above example of the home in California, access is not granted.


When sellers realize they are about to lose their homes through foreclosure, it's not uncommon for them to stop caring about the home.


If something breaks or malfunctions, they aren't going to fix it.
If they are angry or desperate enough, it's possible they might actually destroy the house. An effective way to flood the home is to turn on all the water faucets, plug the drains and leave. Others smash out walls, then pull out the copper pipes and wiring to sell as scrap metal.
Owners will also sell the appliances and kitchen cabinets.
Some horrible-excuse-for-human beings even leave animals behind, locked inside without food or water.

Buying foreclosures is not for the faint of heart. It's best handled by the pros and is not recommended for first-time home buyers. I don't care what seminar (http://homebuying.about.com/od/investmentproperties/qt/0DownSeminars.htm) you attended -- if it's not giving you this information, it's not preparing you for reality.

source (http://homebuying.about.com/od/4closureshortsales/qt/AuctionASIS.htm)

Kaos
Friday, May 30th, 2008, 08:43 AM
Wow, thats some interesting information. Especially that you would have to deal with evictions. Stuff you never think about. Nice find Ray

DougCentercode
Tuesday, August 12th, 2008, 11:55 AM
My brother was looking at buying a home that was foreclosed on. The house was being rented out at the time and the previous owner was vindictive and was cutting utility cables to the house. It would have to be one great bargain for me to consider a foreclosure home.

Doug

Rebecky
Tuesday, August 12th, 2008, 05:48 PM
missed this post way back when....
the course we took for first-time homebuyers, highly advised to stay away from foreclosed and HUD homes.

DougCentercode
Tuesday, August 12th, 2008, 06:00 PM
The house I bought in 1990 was a HUD home and it ended up working out really well for me. I can see why they recommend against them. I ended up assuming the loan (can you even do that any more?), which was the only way of getting into a home without having much credit.

Doug

Rebecky
Wednesday, August 13th, 2008, 04:07 PM
The house I bought in 1990 was a HUD home and it ended up working out really well for me. I can see why they recommend against them. I ended up assuming the loan (can you even do that any more?), which was the only way of getting into a home without having much credit.

Doug
I think I've seen listings to assume mortgages.
The course discouraged first-time homebuyers from buying HUD homes because of the whole bidding process and rigid rules you have to follow. Not very first-time-homebuyer friendly....

Raven
Thursday, August 14th, 2008, 12:02 AM
Every year Home and Garden TV (http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/dream_home/) run a contest of a Dream Home. They build a home and you can log into their website and sign up for it. One year someone won and there was back taxes so high the winners could not afford it. Home and Garden should of checked into that and paid the taxes before giving away that prize.

THERESA
Thursday, August 14th, 2008, 01:47 PM
Didn't they rectify the situation? I couldn't imagine the media getting ahold of that information and Home and Garden not trying to do something to quell the bad publicity.

Rebecky
Thursday, August 14th, 2008, 01:54 PM
Wow, that's unreal! Did they build a new home, or renovate an existing one? I can't imagine taxes being owed on a new parcel......unless it was owned by a reality group for a while.
What a mess...

yukon
Friday, August 22nd, 2008, 10:36 AM
my buddy is actually going through this right now. The quick synopsis:
he bought the house at auction last April. The previous owner is a scumbag horrible excuse for a human. He is a disbarred attorney who lost his credentials because he got caught misappropriating client funds. He is in late 40's early 50's. His wife is around the same age and also has a graduate degree from an ivy league school. They hadn't paid taxes in years, when my buddy bought the house, and called the sheriff's dept, they new the current occupant by name, that had been so many times for financial related reasons. Now we're not talking about some small town, or depressed area. We're talking about north middle class NJ, where houses in this town are on average selling (even NOW in this crazy depressed market) for between 480-750k. This schmuck has children, and is making no reasonable effort to leave. After months of paperwork (and after my buddy has owned his house legally since april, paid his back taxes and not collected on cent in rent or other compensation) the eviction is scheduled for this coming monday. Hopefully it goes through, he has an offer on the table to buy his current house which he'll have to pass up if we can't get him moved into the foreclosure house quickly enough.

Point being: not all forclosures are bad, but not all people who get forcelosed on are good people who fell on hard times.

bobbykorey
Friday, September 19th, 2008, 09:03 AM
my buddy is actually going through this right now. The quick synopsis:
he bought the house at auction last April. The previous owner is a scumbag horrible excuse for a human. He is a disbarred attorney who lost his credentials because he got caught misappropriating client funds. He is in late 40's early 50's. His wife is around the same age and also has a graduate degree from an ivy league school. They hadn't paid taxes in years, when my buddy bought the house, and called the sheriff's dept, they new the current occupant by name, that had been so many times for financial related reasons. Now we're not talking about some small town, or depressed area. We're talking about north middle class NJ, where houses in this town are on average selling (even NOW in this crazy depressed market) for between 480-750k. This schmuck has children, and is making no reasonable effort to leave. After months of paperwork (and after my buddy has owned his house legally since april, paid his back taxes and not collected on cent in rent or other compensation) the eviction is scheduled for this coming monday. Hopefully it goes through, he has an offer on the table to buy his current house which he'll have to pass up if we can't get him moved into the foreclosure house quickly enough.

Point being: not all forclosures are bad, but not all people who get forcelosed on are good people who fell on hard times.

Hi,

These kind of problems are very common in the foreclosure industry, it is thus suggested to always get advice from a professional foreclosure expert... As you said not all foreclosures are bad...
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